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	<description>Common Sense In A Ridiculous World</description>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://thetexasring.com/2010/06/30/wood-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well boys and girls found a nice little stove that I can put in a room. Runs all kinds of fuel and can be cooked on. It&#039;s only $125.00 for the basic stove. To be safe in any house you will probably want double layer pipe. I do assume you will spend a little bit of money &quot;Not to burn your house down&quot; !! Kind of defeats that whole prep thing. 
I want shelter, it&#039;s bloody cold here in S. Idaho in winter time. I&#039;m not looking to suffer or prove anything about how tough I am, I proved that being in the US Army for 13 + years and eating MREs. I didn&#039;t do it for you or anyonelse I did it for me. I will never tell you to store MREs outside of a bugout bag. Bake bread, make real food. I have eaten MRE&#039;s for a month and you would kill someone for ramen noodles and crackers. Or a salami sandwich on fresh bread. 
Don&#039;t suffer. Keep building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well boys and girls found a nice little stove that I can put in a room. Runs all kinds of fuel and can be cooked on. It&#8217;s only $125.00 for the basic stove. To be safe in any house you will probably want double layer pipe. I do assume you will spend a little bit of money &#8220;Not to burn your house down&#8221; !! Kind of defeats that whole prep thing.<br />
I want shelter, it&#8217;s bloody cold here in S. Idaho in winter time. I&#8217;m not looking to suffer or prove anything about how tough I am, I proved that being in the US Army for 13 + years and eating MREs. I didn&#8217;t do it for you or anyonelse I did it for me. I will never tell you to store MREs outside of a bugout bag. Bake bread, make real food. I have eaten MRE&#8217;s for a month and you would kill someone for ramen noodles and crackers. Or a salami sandwich on fresh bread.<br />
Don&#8217;t suffer. Keep building.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://thetexasring.com/2010/06/30/wood-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 16:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the following to be useful when dealing with fools:

I&#039;ve found a new tax.  One which won&#039;t hurt anyone and will help everyone.  It&#039;s so simple, I&#039;m surprised that folks haven&#039;t thought of it before.  I propose that we tax lottery winnings at 99%.

Now, think about it.  Most of the folks will pay their dollar or so and will lose.  They are no worse off than before.  The winner, of say a million dollar lottery, will still get a thousand dollars.  Not bad for a dollar investment for a few days.  Isn&#039;t this a great idea?

To which the response is usually.  &quot;But if you do that, no one would buy tickets and play the lottery.&quot;

To which there are several answers:

1.  &quot;NOW you get it.&quot;
2.  &quot;I didn&#039;t think you would realize that.&quot;
3.  &quot;Nonsense.  Look at the tax structure. People are sufficiently 
     stupid to keep playing--they keep working, don&#039;t they?&quot;

always,
tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the following to be useful when dealing with fools:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found a new tax.  One which won&#8217;t hurt anyone and will help everyone.  It&#8217;s so simple, I&#8217;m surprised that folks haven&#8217;t thought of it before.  I propose that we tax lottery winnings at 99%.</p>
<p>Now, think about it.  Most of the folks will pay their dollar or so and will lose.  They are no worse off than before.  The winner, of say a million dollar lottery, will still get a thousand dollars.  Not bad for a dollar investment for a few days.  Isn&#8217;t this a great idea?</p>
<p>To which the response is usually.  &#8220;But if you do that, no one would buy tickets and play the lottery.&#8221;</p>
<p>To which there are several answers:</p>
<p>1.  &#8220;NOW you get it.&#8221;<br />
2.  &#8220;I didn&#8217;t think you would realize that.&#8221;<br />
3.  &#8220;Nonsense.  Look at the tax structure. People are sufficiently<br />
     stupid to keep playing&#8211;they keep working, don&#8217;t they?&#8221;</p>
<p>always,<br />
tony</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://thetexasring.com/2010/06/30/wood-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 06:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s simply the tragedy of the commons. Nothing new except for a new generation. who don&#039;t learn old rules.</description>
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		<title>By: Linda Brady Traynham</title>
		<link>http://thetexasring.com/2010/06/30/wood-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1064</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Brady Traynham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we ain&#039;t no way picky about how they starve themselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we ain&#8217;t no way picky about how they starve themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: James the Wanderer</title>
		<link>http://thetexasring.com/2010/06/30/wood-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>James the Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Government produces no goods and creates no services&quot;, said my father, explaining why he bitched at tax time. He was right then, and still is.
THIS government has forgotten who supports it - and is losing that support, day by day.
When the fools outnumber the virtuous, all the virtuous can do is withdraw - and wait for the fools to starve themselves into wisdom, or just starve.
Then it will be time for another cycle, and another crop of fools....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Government produces no goods and creates no services&#8221;, said my father, explaining why he bitched at tax time. He was right then, and still is.<br />
THIS government has forgotten who supports it &#8211; and is losing that support, day by day.<br />
When the fools outnumber the virtuous, all the virtuous can do is withdraw &#8211; and wait for the fools to starve themselves into wisdom, or just starve.<br />
Then it will be time for another cycle, and another crop of fools&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Brady Traynham</title>
		<link>http://thetexasring.com/2010/06/30/wood-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Brady Traynham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve loved Mencken for some sixty years, and the bee bit was eternal wisdom, not counting that bees get the pleasure of stinging their tax collectors occasionally.  Of course, it kills them...

Welcome to the Ring, Dave.  We&#039;ll hope to hear from you frequently.  Regards, Linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve loved Mencken for some sixty years, and the bee bit was eternal wisdom, not counting that bees get the pleasure of stinging their tax collectors occasionally.  Of course, it kills them&#8230;</p>
<p>Welcome to the Ring, Dave.  We&#8217;ll hope to hear from you frequently.  Regards, Linda</p>
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		<title>By: Desertrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desertrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WRT the Mencken quote, in my own voting in thirteen presidential elections I was mostly voting against a candidate by voting for his opponent.  The lesser of two weevils, if you will.  Although the cornbread still gets spoiled, the hope is that it&#039;s not spoiled quite as much. :-)

As far as the natural cycle, I commend &quot;The Fourth Turning&quot; to all who have not read it.  The first part of the book drags, IMO, with all the discussion about time, but as they speak to generational characteristics, they hit the mark pretty closely.

The 1809 analogy of the bees is of course anathema to those whose goal is primarily that of centralized control over others.  Independent decision-making at the individual level is in their eyes totally wrong.

&#039;Rat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WRT the Mencken quote, in my own voting in thirteen presidential elections I was mostly voting against a candidate by voting for his opponent.  The lesser of two weevils, if you will.  Although the cornbread still gets spoiled, the hope is that it&#8217;s not spoiled quite as much. <img src='http://thetexasring.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As far as the natural cycle, I commend &#8220;The Fourth Turning&#8221; to all who have not read it.  The first part of the book drags, IMO, with all the discussion about time, but as they speak to generational characteristics, they hit the mark pretty closely.</p>
<p>The 1809 analogy of the bees is of course anathema to those whose goal is primarily that of centralized control over others.  Independent decision-making at the individual level is in their eyes totally wrong.</p>
<p>&#8216;Rat</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Foste</title>
		<link>http://thetexasring.com/2010/06/30/wood-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1033</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Foste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Don&#039;t you just hate that, &quot;interesting, you write well&quot; WHAT ABOUT THE CONTENT, did it mean anything, did you get fired up did I hit a hot spot positive or negative.  Is my analysis good or bad, did I get it right or wrong, how do you feel about it, what can you contribute that will make me think about what I wrote. 

It made me think, It made me think that I screwed up over the last 25 years, Did I produce, of course I did, I helped a man who took over a business doing 3 million a year with 20 employee&#039;s, build a busines to 20 million a year and 60 plus employees. The thing that erk&#039;s me is that he is now wealthy, and I live the same life style I had 20 years ago.  Did I produce, sure I did, I&#039;m still there even throught this deprssion, how much longer I do not know.

I do not know because I don&#039;t know how much longer he can keep paying the piper, the only real cost that puts the business in jepordy going forward is the continual increase in local and state fee&#039;s, Fee&#039;s because they can&#039;t pass new taxes in our state, at the Federal level you folks already the continuous new cost imposed each and every year.

We are in the commodity business, Steel, with added value products, we can manage the basic cost of business, fuel, labor, flucuating prices, but we cannot continue to beat the Government involvement from the local, county, state, and federal theivery.  At the bare minimum the government takes at least 50 percent of our profit, before we even begin paying the labor, it may be more than that. 

At what point does he just throw in the towel, take his riches and just shut it down. At some point the incentive to fight the battle comes to and end.

Great Artical David.

P.S. I forgot my main point, I produced for the owner, I got stuck and missed the real point of produceing for myself and family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you just hate that, &#8220;interesting, you write well&#8221; WHAT ABOUT THE CONTENT, did it mean anything, did you get fired up did I hit a hot spot positive or negative.  Is my analysis good or bad, did I get it right or wrong, how do you feel about it, what can you contribute that will make me think about what I wrote. </p>
<p>It made me think, It made me think that I screwed up over the last 25 years, Did I produce, of course I did, I helped a man who took over a business doing 3 million a year with 20 employee&#8217;s, build a busines to 20 million a year and 60 plus employees. The thing that erk&#8217;s me is that he is now wealthy, and I live the same life style I had 20 years ago.  Did I produce, sure I did, I&#8217;m still there even throught this deprssion, how much longer I do not know.</p>
<p>I do not know because I don&#8217;t know how much longer he can keep paying the piper, the only real cost that puts the business in jepordy going forward is the continual increase in local and state fee&#8217;s, Fee&#8217;s because they can&#8217;t pass new taxes in our state, at the Federal level you folks already the continuous new cost imposed each and every year.</p>
<p>We are in the commodity business, Steel, with added value products, we can manage the basic cost of business, fuel, labor, flucuating prices, but we cannot continue to beat the Government involvement from the local, county, state, and federal theivery.  At the bare minimum the government takes at least 50 percent of our profit, before we even begin paying the labor, it may be more than that. </p>
<p>At what point does he just throw in the towel, take his riches and just shut it down. At some point the incentive to fight the battle comes to and end.</p>
<p>Great Artical David.</p>
<p>P.S. I forgot my main point, I produced for the owner, I got stuck and missed the real point of produceing for myself and family.</p>
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